Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-75.27.105.179-20150316062106/@comment-94.173.156.47-20161214210227

Yuuki is OP because she is a badass. Just the same reasons why Kirito and Asuna are OP.



That said, she’s not better than Kirito whatever you might have heard or read. I know, I just lit the match but still it’s absolutely true.



Firstly most people fall back on; “Oh, the creator said she is stronger.” Right, well if Stan Lee told you that Spiderman was stronger than Thanos does that make it true? No, it doesn’t. He can decide the outcome of their fights but one of two things; Either he completely retcons one or both characters abilities to make it true or the weaker one wins due to circumstance. The latter applies to Yuuki vs Kirito.



The second argument they will make is; “The cutting magic apart doesn’t count because she just never thought to do it”. Ignoring the fact that you are importing excuses to her character that don’t have a factual basis and are ignoring her reaction to the feat, let’s actually debunk the point. The problem here is this would otherwise prove beyond doubt that Kirito is faster than Yuuki so it must be false. But if Yuuki is faster shouldn’t she get dual blades? Even if there’s a reason that can’t happen, is there a reason she alone isn’t enough to push her team over the edge to defeat any boss? In the progressive novels Kirito is the deciding factor in a lot of boss fights. He solo’s the Christmas boss in the main series and goes toe to toe with Gleam Eyes. Feats are the standard by which fictional characters are mostly measured because they are the most relevant source for a basis of a reasonable argument. With the exception of the Christmas boss these are also feats that we actually see where we don’t see Yuuki vs Kirito, the relevance of which I will state below. But despite her playing for 3 years straight we never heard of anything remarkable she has ever actually done outside of being undefeated against 67 random players. Which to be brutally honest isn’t that impressive, most players who no-life a game will be in the top one percentile of skill of players in that particular game. The only relevant fact of this is that she defeated Kirito.



Third point; “She beat Kirito, accept it man” I fully accept that Kirito lost, just like I fully accept that he should have lost against Sinon who could have shot him before he was able to see her attack. This point isn’t about denying the fact that she won, it’s about did she beat him in a fight where they were both going all out? The answer to that is; ‘we don’t know’ and anyone who says otherwise either way is a fool or a fanboy/girl. What we can say is that it’s extremely unlikely based on the above feats, and based on their second dual where Yuuki wins a second time. We only catch the tail end of their fight and there shows no sign that Kirito is holding back. But she wins due to a time out in the instant he was about to open her face. This is the same as Zeus defeating Atom in Real Steel, by the rules of the game she wins and that is perfectly acceptable. But anyone who saw it knows who the superior fighter really was. And That is the point.



I personally don’t buy into the idea that he wasn’t using his dual blades or Excalibur and if he did either he would have stomped. Sure, just like how Sugou was kicking Kirito’s ass when he had unfair advantages. If your point is Kirito could have won then fine you are correct in saying this, but if your point is that Kirito is actually better than Yukki then they are utterly invalid points as they unhinge the playing field. If Yuuki’s style was one handed exclusively even if she had access to Dual Blades THEN and only THEN does that become a reasonable point. The use of Excalibur is bull and any reasonable minded person knows it. If you are only winning due to a numbers advantage then you aren’t actually better.



Finally I also don’t buy into the whole; Kirito only fights to the uber limit when his life is on the life. So you are going to sit there and tell me he wasn’t going all out for his first fight with Heathcliff? What is the reasonable basis for that argument? Hint, there isn’t one.