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Gsimenas

aka Gytis (ギーティス)

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  • First of all, since when does an image change need authorization

    Secondly, it's still the same integrity Knights. It's a full body image from the anime. That means it's better.

    Third, if you don't like the one word paragraphs, then add to them, don't undo my improvements

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    • First of all, since when does an image change need authorization

      Any change in format or representative image needs to be approved by a community vote. Format needs to be maintained consistent throughout the wiki and central images cannot be changed at the drop of a hat because one random guy thinks some other image is better. Community votes help ensure that such changes are weighed carefully before being enacted.

      Secondly, it's still the same integrity Knights. It's a full body image from the anime. That means it's better.

      You've just provided an example of why we have a policy against changing format and images at the drop of a hat.

      1. The Integrity Knight page uses a table format. The table format is more or less standardised on the wiki. There isn't a single table on the wiki that uses character designs for images.
      2. Character design art is pretty much all vertically long, which stretches the table unnecessarily. That's why we use horizontally-long or square images where possible (except for tables for book/manga volumes). Character design art crops are only used in the appearance sections of character articles, where full body views of the character are actually useful.
      3. The purpose of the images on tables is to provide visual material to help people identify characters without visiting their articles, not show off what the character is wearing. So, full body images aren't automatically better because they show more, when that's not even the point of the images.

      Just because you think something looks better doesn't make it a fact. That's why decisions like that are made by the community, not individuals.

      Third, if you don't like the one word paragraphs, then add to them, don't undo my improvements

      1. The one making changes is responsible for ensuring the quality of their edits. If you create an issue, you're the one expected to fix it.
      2. "Improvement" is another subjective concept. What you added:
        1. The fact that armour comes in a variety of colour - Fine, that's a pretty objective fact. Doesn't necessitate a separate paragraph of its own though.
        2. Stating a lack of knowledge of the significance of the armour colours - useless.
        3. Speculating about the significance of the colours - speculation on the wiki is not allowed.
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    • Looks to me like nothing you added was an improvement in any way, shape, or form. It looked more like you had a moment that played out as such:

      I think I know better than everybody else! This page just NEEDS speculation and redundant facts!! 

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  • Do you remember which episode that have Eugeo dreams about Alice? I can't remember which one plus I am on Episode 18 of SAO Season 3.

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    • Hell9?

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    • isn't this EP1 ? Kid Eugeo dream that Alice is leaving him after they came back from the Dark Territory borders, the night before the Intergrity Knight show up and take Alice away.



      I might be mistaken tho.

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  • Hello, I hope you are well.

    Do you know where this quote comes from? I have searched through volumes 9-18 and cannot find it.

    “I’d be known in Underworld as the Star King, just as Asuna would be known as the Star Queen. Kazuto and Asuna rediscovered all of Quinella’s secrets, used them, reforged the world, eliminated all barriers between civilizations, united the four kingdoms with the monsters living in the Dark Territories… And then conquered space itself.”

    Quote Sources: Link 1, Link 2

    Thanks.

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    • Hey !

      I may have your answer but I'm not entirely sure. Both articles seems to be written by the same perso who kinda stole a lot of the things on internet and are full of bullshit. 

      If you check my profile, you'll see that I have the same sentence for years now... I don't exactly remember, but I think I may have written all that by myself at some point from the Web Novel because it looked cool ^^'

      Soooo... I might just be that... 

      I'll be sure to tell you if I find or remember something about it !

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    • Thank you.

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  • Hey I have two questions

    1. I recently did this poll: https://swordartonline.fandom.com/f/p/3100000000000001680 on the wiki discussion for the decision to change Eugeo info box and gave it couple weeks since these wiki discussions aren’t as active like discord and reddit and the vote went to it being changed and XCelest manage to find a better quality of the image. So we change it now or wait on it?

    2. Should we start adding the dub actors to the characters profile page? Cause I notice they haven’t been updated and someone tried to add them but they act proper source and most of the English actors announced on their Twitter that they voice said character.

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    • Hey there, 1/ Oh hey, i'm mentionned there xD I won't reply to this question because I'm not Gsi, but I'll just say that if you want to upload pictures next time, take it from the episode itself and in 1920x1080p if possible :p Gsi is currently busy these days, he will reply later

      2/ Of course we can, as long as it is properly sourced ! The certain someone made mistakes in his sources

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    • 1. A poll where we can't even see who voted, let alone why, is not really a basis for any change on the wiki. We very rarely make anonymous polls - usually only when our editorbase is conflicted about a decision or when something greatly affects the wiki's readers, prompting a need to gauge public opinion. In most other cases, we only count votes when it's clear who voted (i.e., either on Discord where voters are listed, or forum comments, rather than anonymous polls). One of the biggest issue here is that your one and sole argument for changing the infobox image is "Because it's anime!", which basically holds no value on the wiki. As I've mentioned before, we don't decide infobox images based on where it comes from; we decide them based on what best represents the character. The only reason that we use primarily (but not only) anime images is because most light novel and manga illustrations are not coloured (if an illustration of the character exists at all), giving anime screenshots the advantage, and because anime screenshots are easier to standardise. However, not all of our pages use anime images even when an anime screenshot is available; that's not limited to Eugeo. PoH and Johnny Black, for example, still use light novel illustrations for their infobox image 7 years after the first season aired (because the light novel version gives a clearer image of them).

      However, Eugeo's LN illustration is both coloured and looks pretty good, which is why we hadn't changed it for this long. The only valid reason I see for changing Eugeo's picture is the fact that the LN illustration depicts him as blue-eyed due to abec's colour fuckups. That's really the only valid argument I see for pushing for an anime image for the guy. However, if we are going to change the picture to an anime one, it would be best to have several different variants to choose from and then decide on the best one. I'll try to gather some options and hold a vote on Discord at the end of the week. If you want to help with that, feel free to look for some alternative options yourself and notify me of the timestamp for the episode.

      2. Dub actors can be added at any time (though not many of us watch the dub, which is why this has been left unattended for so long), as long as they are properly sourced. We've had cases of people adding unsubstantiated guesswork regarding dub actors (which turned out to be utter bullshit in the end), which is why sourcing is now mandatory. The official site, episode credits, official trailers, voice actor statements from their official accounts etc. are all valid (though official sites and episode credits are preferred for better reliability). Third party sites like Anime News Network or any other news site/blog/wikipedia/whatever are not valid sources.

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    • First you can actually check and see who voted on the poll I can see that both you and Celest voted for the no option all you have to do is click on the vote and you’ll see who voted.

      Second I have many reasons why I want to change it and it’s NOT “it’s because it’s anime!” That’s very rude to make stuff up on what I said I never said that, I found a anime image that I thought “oh wow this looks better than the LN image I think we should use this” because just like the LN image it shows the character better and like you said his eyes are green unlike in the LN that’s why I’m bring this up. I have as many arguments on why I think the image would work and the only argument I see you have against it was the background is bland when the LN one is no different you could argue the bit bluish background and Eugeo is wearing blue doesn’t look well but I disagree. Alice S30 is no different she got a good LN image (seriously check her pervious image) and it’s cool to change hers but what’s wrong with Eugeo’s? And it’s not just Eugeo. There’s other characters I feel need a change like Kirito (PA) and Elevator-chan. It makes these articles feel left out compared to others and I feel they deserve a change too. I feel no is even trying.

      And third it’s more than just that not images but I want to help EXPAN and update the articles though I’m afraid on what I type is gonna get entirely undo for not making it good enough and mods like you mad because so many articles need clean up and expanding and people are ether busy and don’t have to time to do it or just leave it like that all together.

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    • First you can actually check and see who voted on the poll I can see that both you and Celest voted for the no option all you have to do is click on the vote and you’ll see who voted.

      Thanks for the information. Didn't know that was a thing. Though, that doesn't change the fact that barely any of the regulars voted on it.

      Second I have many reasons why I want to change it and it’s NOT “it’s because it’s anime!” That’s very rude to make stuff up on what I said I never said that

      And yet in all of the conversations we had, as well as the posts that I looked over on Discussions, I never saw any real arguments to support the change other than the fact that it's an anime image, so sorry if I got the wrong impression. If we decided to change infobox images due to subjective reasons like "I like this image", we'd be having infobox image changes at least once a week. To avoid such scenarios, we require objective arguments to prompt an infobox image change - there has to be something objectively better about the new image to consider a change. The fact that I didn't hear of any such arguments from you is one of the main reasons why I didn't support your proposed change.

      Alice S30 is no different she got a good LN image (seriously check her pervious image) and it’s cool to change hers but what’s wrong with Eugeo’s?

      For the record, Alice had the same issue at first. Some people tried to push an image from her first appearance (https://swordartonline.fandom.com/wiki/File:Alice_Synthesis_Thirty_gazing_at_Eugeo_at_Kirito_during_her_introduction_-_S3E10.png), but we rejected it due to various issues (shadows on her face, bland background, lack of expression etc.), which made it no better than the one we used from the novel. On the other hand, the current image didn't have those issue + it portrayed her expression better than the equivalent image in the novel, thus there was sufficient reason to make the change for her. Meanwhile, anime images for Eugeo don't really offer any significant improvement over the LN image (minus the fact that abec sucks at getting colours right), seeing as the LN image is pretty good on its own, so it basically comes down to subjective aesthetics. The eye colour is pretty much the only objective argument I can think of to support the change.

      I want to help EXPAN and update the articles though I’m afraid on what I type is gonna get entirely undo for not making it good enough and mods like you mad because so many articles need clean up and expanding and people are ether busy and don’t have to time to do it or just leave it like that all together.

      I only undo content edits when it's either off topic (e.g., when someone starts writing about relationships or just a plot summary on a personality section)/irrelevant (e.g. digressions about non-important plot events), or there's too little useful content in them to bother fixing them. And the latter criterion is mostly only used when someone spams poor quality content without showing any effort to improve. When someone doesn't bother to wait for a review yet churns out content with many blatant issues left and right, I have to take more drastic action to ensure that I can keep up with the edits, or I won't have enough time to review all of that content (I already have experience with where unsupervised content additions like that end up - gigantic walls of text with little to no focus on what's actually important - which is why I've become stricter on that). In all other cases, I try to fix the issues and make improvements to the edits, rather than undoing the edits. If you want to contribute like that, I recommend starting small and letting me review your edits to see if there are any issues with them (e.g., incorrect tense, style/register issues etc.) that you need to improve on before undertaking larger projects. Most new editors experience the same issues until they get used to the standards, after all.

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  • I believe you forgot to revert Chica808's page move for Pitohui's image gallery.

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    • Thanks for the notification. I could have sworn I reverted that change, but I was in a hurry at the time, so I must have missed it somehow.

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  • How are dates in Underworld listed differently compared in the real world? The anime even the LNs actually listed dates example: July 372 HE. Where did that date format come from? I don’t remember the LNs listing them like that. Why can’t we just date them simply?

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    • Logical question: How exactly do you expect a society created by Japanese to be aware of Roman culture and calendars? All English names for the months are based on Latin, which does not exist in Underworld. Instead, Underworld follows the modern Japanese system: all months are named after their number. The first month is literally called the first month rather than "January", the second month - the second rather than "February" etc.. Because of this, there really isn't any difference between how the months are called in Japan and Underworld. While the anime subs and Yen Press decided to just translate the months as if the story was still taking place in Japan, the wiki decided that it doesn't make sense for Underworld people to actually know anything about Roman month names and thus decided to use literal translations for the month names in Underworld.

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  • Oh uhh...

    Before i upload some anime pics which is involved alicization btw 

    What are the rules of uploading a official pic here since i'm new cause i was about to upload some night sky sword and blue rose so before that i need to know which is legit to avoid confusion

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    • You should check our Image Guideline for rules concerning images. If you have more specific questions in mind, feel free to ask them. You should especially take note of the requirement to source and categorise any images you upload, as any file that does not meet such requirements will be automatically removed from articles. No one wants to clean up after others (I can say from experience, since I had to go through over a thousand images myself), so our policy on requiring image uploaders to take care of sourcing is enforced very strictly.

      Additionally, please don't make gifs for skills when all you have to show is an incomplete execution. There's zero point in making a gif of solely the first hit of Meteor Break, when there's six more hits that aren't shown. That just misrepresents the skill.

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  • File:105C30AF-A167-4C05-BF74-EF9C0ACD0962.png

    I know this isn’t in png format but it’s just to show you cause Eugeo still doesn’t have one neither does Kirito for his Alicization pic

    And one more thing I asked you this before but can we add Synthesis 32 to Eugeo’s info box just like with Alice since Alice has both Zuberg and S30 also?

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    • For the record, the file you uploaded actually is a .png file. Though, the fact that you didn't bother giving it a sensible name is definitely an issue.

      Anyway, to answer your first question, my policy for infobox image changes is but one: the new image must be better than the old one in some way. A screenshot from the anime is not automatically better than an image from the novel. The reason we mostly use anime images is because the novel doesn't have that many coloured illustrations where a character is depicted in a presentable way (and it's usually easier to maintain uniformity in image dimensions with anime screenshots). However, the image we're currently using for Eugeo is pretty decent already. The one issue I might have with the current file is that Eugeo is depicted with blue eyes, when he actually has green eyes. However, the image is also more vivid than the one you're proposing, it has a better focus on Eugeo, and it doesn't have as bland a background. So, in my opinion, our current image looks better suited for an infobox than the one you're proposing. If we were to use an image from the anime, I would prefer to find a better shot of him. Though, I am just one person; an infobox image would be best decided through a community vote.

      As for your second question, are you referring to the way we have two different images for Alice in the infobox, or are you referring to both her names being listed on the infobox? If it's the latter, I'm pretty sure I answered the question the last time you asked something of the sort (I'm assuming that https://swordartonline.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:67135 was you). I would need to look up where this name was used (both to verify that the title was actually used in the story, and to know where to find the Japanese version of it for the infobox). But I currently do not have the time to reread an entire book, so it would help if someone were to specify where it was mentioned.

      P.S. For future reference, please do not upload files to the wiki with poor names just to show an example. I would recommend joining us on Discord, where we can discuss editing concerns and upload images without clogging up the wiki's file library. An alternative would be to use Discussions, which work separately from the wiki itself, meaning that you can upload images without needing to add it to the wiki's library.

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    • Okay I didn’t know it was a png cause every time I upload a image on here it always become a jpg and I have to go back and delete it and also light novel image of Eugeo is no different than this one both have a blandground while the light novel is more focus I find it it hypocritical that you said the one I sent has a bland background.

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    • Just because my personal opinion doesn't match yours does not make me hypocritical. I believe the background in the anime image looks bland because all you can see is a bluish-gray floor. The LN illustration's background is more vividly coloured, and you can actually see something there in the background (though my main concern is that the background just looks more vivid and is a better contrast for Eugeo's blue; for the anime image, you literally have a boy dressed in blue with a bluish floor in the background, which doesn't really work well for contrast). However, as I've said in my post, that is my personal opinion. Different people may have different opinions on the subject, but since you asked for my opinion specifically, I shared how I personally felt on the matter.

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    • Should of worded my post correctly so my humble apologies, didn’t mean to call you a hypocrite.

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  • Hi 

    Can i ask uh what size and frame length and width for the gif here

    Thanks for the Help

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    • That's entirely outside my field, so I can't really help you here. You'll have to look at existing examples or ask someone who made the existing gifs.

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    • Hi there, 600px x 338px would be the best dimensions in order to keep the 16:9 format. As for the frames, we do not really mind as long as the gif is smooth.

      I hope that I have been somehow helpful !

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  • Hey Don't just deleted it just as soon it was created

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    • Well I would edit it more if you haven't outright delete it and you didn't give me a sufficient reason why delete it outright

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    • There is a sandbox that you can use to make a rough draft of the page.

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