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  • anyone else noticed the laughing coffin guild mark on her leg? perhaps she just wants to get close to Kirito for revenge.

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    • Noticed. Didn't realize what that was until I looked closer....

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    • yes lux is one of the two laughing coffin members that escaped when they were taking down the guild kirito talked bout b4, the other was was death gun from ggo

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    • Only one LC member escaped: PoH. All other LC members were captured or killed; 12 and 21 respectively.

      That being said, Lux is presumably one of the 11 that were captured during the Crusade. Otherwise, she left the LC guild before the Crusade, but that may be explained later in Girl's Ops.

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      1. "Death Gun" did not escape. He was captured and thrown into prison.
      2. PoH was the one to escape.
      3. Until solid evidence is provided, do not add this to the article. We do not allow speculation.

      Edit: Kai cut in line -_-

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    • It's possible she's the one who regretted killing and revealed the hiding spot... and she's one of those who changes personality in-game? she might be.......

      but that's just mere speculation. those who read the WN and its summaries know who it was (that fact is probably unchanged)

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    • Scanner, did you read what Gsi said?

      3. Until solid evidence is provided, do not add this to the article. We do not allow speculation.

      yet you still added Laughing Coffin material into the article.

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    • You can add in that she has a tattoo that looks rubbed off, but don't add speculation of what it is.

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    • nah it didn't look rubbed off, it was actually being removed (looking at the page, it shows the pixels being removed)

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    • The tatoo she had shows the strange eyes and the top part of the coffin tatoo.  It's 99.99999999999999% the laughing coffin signature tatoo and stonewalling that fact... Well, minus internets to you.

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    • I don't think it would be too much to say, "Leafa noticed a tatoo on Lux's leg that disappeared soon after Lux spaned. The tatoo appears to have a resemblance to the mark used by the murder guild, Laughing Coffin."

      You have to be blind, or not have observed the page at all. Calling everything that isn't spoonfed to you, "Speculation" is a bit much.

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    • I'm curious as to how she joined L.C and why she's hidden it.

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    • @TUSF Claiming that something is a fact because "it looks like it" is a bit much too, don't you think? Unlike the M9000, no character even mentioned LC in this case, thus this is much closer to speculation than to facts.

      Anyway, the only edits I undid or would have undone were the ones that straight up claimed that the tattoo was an LC tattoo or that Hiyori was confirmed to be an LC member (e.g. http://swordartonline.wikia.com/wiki/Kashiwazaka_Hiyori?diff=prev&oldid=88300 or http://swordartonline.wikia.com/wiki/Kashiwazaka_Hiyori?diff=next&oldid=88321), instead of just stating a similarity. I don't mind stating a similarity, but stating the LC membership as a fact should not be allowed on a wikia.

      I'm personally more curious about why did that tattoo appear only to disappear again.

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    • probably because the logo is automatically set as expire at condition or by time or manually erased?

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    • It should aslo be noted that PoH had a very distinctive manner of speaking which could be why the girls commented on Hiyori's speech...but this is just speculation

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    • sorry not PoH but one of the other members XD

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    • XaXa.

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    • Either way, her name in SAO should still be Lux guys. Because when characters import their avatars from another game, they keep the name intact. This has been shown two times by Kirito. He was not given a prompt to change his name when he first transferred to ALO, and it wasn't an option given again when he transferred to GGO. All of his other SAO acquaintances and Sinon when she transferred to ALO are also good examples.

      My personal theory here would be that or she was a member of the front lines who prompted to join Laughing Coffin undercover as an informant with her friend Rossa. When this was discovered by true LC members and they tried to escape, Rossa shielded her and was killed, then Kirito came to her rescue. This may also explain why she idolized him. But then, that's just what I personally think. :)

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      1. Kirito did not convert his account to ALO. He created a new account and ALO screwed up and merged his account with the SAO one.
      2. Kirito had the option to choose a name, since he was creating a new account.
      3. Sinon did not convert to ALO either, she created a NEW ACCOUNT. She still has her GGO account.

      The problem with your theory is that Hiyori did say something like "why protect a person like me", which implies that her past wasn't all that bright.

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    • Her SAO name remains as Lux, as far as I know. What confused you to say that we aren't?

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    • I think the process of kirito importing to GGO show that name would not be changed...? Or in another way to say it, other than money and item, all the things you have are conserved for avatar...

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    • Import deletes everything that is outside of the avatar itself: items, currency, presence (from Friends List and maybe the Monument of Swordsmen?). Import takes along everything that is the character: the complexion (appearance), attributes and stats, and probably "game-specific achievements" (such as marriage).

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    • The last one is doubtful. ALO and SAO shared the same server, so the imported married status was likely caused by that.

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    • I mean, the player is married, but that status is saved only on the account before it converted. In contrast, if Kirito hadn't stored his ALO items with Agil, he would have no way to get them back when he imported back to ALO.

      However, yeah, it is doubtful. In-game marriage isn't too hot of a topic in MMOs.

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    • and i dont think name would be outside of avatar itself...

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    • (As for marriage, i'd just treat it as the system dont have that function enabled

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    • Well, this is slowly getting off topic...

      Anyways, about Rossa, that explanation may or may not be plausible. I would think that they felt that killing others was a bad thing, even if the blame wasn't to be cast on them after they escaped SAO. And then the LC members ambushed them and Kirito saved them, but not until Rossa had died.

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    • of the topic, read the latest trivia point i added to the bottom of page that translate from reki's comment: Laughing Coffin

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    • Still, people could still have second doubts. No one can stop the second doubt, unless you force them to cope with it. It doesn't matter: not every Laughing Coffin member could be a cold-hearted killer. I'm sure Hiyori/Lux couldn't take the mental pressure of continuing to stain her hands with blood.

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    • I'd guess she probably have her second doubt only after someone important to her get killed? much like the case of saop1 ch2

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    • I wouldn't know this SAOP1 yet, since I haven't gotten to translating it yet. God I'm slacking.

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    • It said she wanted to avoid people, so why should she have a reason to creep up on them and kill them? Much less join a group of other people to do that.

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    • That is completely irrelevant as a sentence......

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    • How can something be irrelevant as a sentence? Would it become relevant if it was a paragraph? An idea can be irrelevant in itself, not as a sentence. Or a sentence can be irrelevant, but not that a sentence format is irrelevant.

      Anyway, we don't know that much about her past. Avoiding people could have been a consequence of her past.

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    • (>NECRO'd thread)

      From what I've read, this whole conversation started with one person pointing out that Hiyori had a faded LC tattoo on her leg. I have yet to see anyone link to or upload a pic that actually SHOWS her with this tattoo visible on her leg.

      inb4 someone says "check the image gallery": I did. There's nothing there which even shows her legs uncovered (save for maybe one picture where one of her uncovered legs is just barely visible).

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    • oAo Well, DAMN.

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    • ^ Yeah, shoulda read the chapter again, when everyone saw that thread start, everyone went to when Lux's avatar appeared.

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    • Where's the Laughing Coffin mark?!

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    • Did anyone try to go back to GGO to see if one of the 2 LC player Kirito killed during that raid could be a female (Rossa)?

      To make thing clear: 1- SAO players do not "import" their character in ALO (as there isn't an "Import" option). SAO Character file, data and inventory are saved in the player VR-device memory storage space, as well as on the game server. In the original SAO case the VR-device is the Nervgear. ALO is a modify copy of the SAO cardinal and graphic system and it follow the same procedure (Character file, data and inventory are saved in the player VR-device memory storage space as well as on the game server. In ALO case the VR-device is the Amusphere .) Once a player login to his/her account and chose his/her character the play with, the game come look for a character file in the player VR device and synchronize the server data with the VR-device one (This procedure allow to play on different server if you change region and or country). Because SAO and ALO character are, at the core, the same, when a SOA player login on ALO using his/her nervgear, the game try to synchronize the data of the character on the server with the ones saved in the nervgear, re-using the graphic date of the avatar while converting it(modifying it) to the race of the choose character (You choose your race, you choose your name, you enter the game/the server synchronize). THIS is what they describle as "importing you SAO character. If you look at Lux Tatoo, it disappear at the same time as the elf hear and other sylph feature appear (what is not common to the 2 games is modified).

      I'm short in time atm but I'll post on Conversion to GGO latter this WE.

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    • Nearly all Nervegears are destructed after SAO incident. And those used by SAO players except kirito's have all been collected and removed after they are saved.

      And btw, latest SAO GO chapter described her history in SAO.

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    • And back to topic,
      Spoiler Alert! [show]
      Latest chapter of GO confirmed from Lux's mouth that he joined LC when she was in SAO.
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    • I just want to read the next chapter after 6. Where do you read it?

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    • 112.209.174.48 wrote:
      I just want to read the next chapter after 6. Where do you read it?


      Me, too.

      Somebody, share the LC illustration. I missed the DengekiBunko Magazine and cannot find it anywhere.

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    • Use the comic walker site, and then there're third party program that can let you download past comicwalker chapters

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    • Where can you read the latest chapters of this?

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    • ^It's not in English yet. But the third manga was realesed in English a few days ago, so you could get it at the public library

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    • Remember that not everyone lives in America.

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    • Sorry forgot about that. Though when I was little my mom told me that all people have to learn English. Well I believed her with a grain of salt

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    • It was probably not only referring to the language, but also to that public library part. I could ask my library to get the manga yes, but they won't get it if it's in English. It's a (not too small) niche market over here, but that said not many would read a manga in a public library not in their native language.

      Most people learn some English - that doesn't mean that they're good at it.

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    • I'm going to tie this in to Sao 2 XAXA  operated under the call sign death gun and he was taken out by Kirito. Johnny Black was caught by Kirito when he attacked Sinon. PoH is still at large. Lux and Kuradeel were killed during the raid in episode 6. 

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    • @Geomodelrailroader: Literally everything you said after "XAXA operated under the call sign death gun and he was taken out by Kirito" is wrong, and even the latter half of that statement is only partially correct.

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    • lux is not a member of laughing coffin any more, she decided to start a new life with new avatar but maybe she imported part of her old account thats the reason the tatto was still there and then disappered leaving her past behind so i dont think she is going to try to kill kirito what a shame

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