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  • Gsimenas
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    06:28, May 12, 2015

    Instead of editing again without discussion and risk starting an argument or worse, I'll discuss first, and only if an agreement is reached will I edit.

    The reason I brought up the reason of Kyouji's assault was because it takes a victim of truly strong character to forgive something as monstrous as what was going to do to be done to Shino.

    What is the usual reward for attempted rape in most media? Why, that delightfully cathartic moment where Kirito turns Oberon into screaming confetti that climaxed the last season.  And we don't need to feel ANY sympathy for garbage like that because he had it coming.

    Shino, in a predicament identical to poor Asuna's, had every right to hate that backstabbing scumbag, moreso than her savior Kirito in fact.  Yet she elected to show him compassion and try to save him instead of leaving him to his deserved wreck of what remains of his life.

    What a girl! :)  I doubt even Belldandy of "Ah My Goddess" would have been THIS nice. ;)

    Finally, the previous editor stated that it can't be proven that Kyouji was trying to rape Asada.

    Well... when a bloke holds a syringe full of paralytic poison to a helpless little girl, telling her to not move a muscle while groping her body and slobbering over her like the dog that he is, to quote Clint Eastwood's Dirty Harry "You can Be Sure He's Not Collecting Donations for the Red Cross."

    Let the discussion begin. ;)

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    • It's because it didn't show or state anything....explicit. They were more like hints as it didn't have any true evidence, such as the actual word "rape" or "sexual abuse" or "sexual harassment". It would no longer be information; rather it would be speculation(more than just a big deal here, using speculation in articles).

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    • The lack of proof line was referring to a part where somebody claimed that Shino was the most fragile-minded character in the series. Please tell me where you have proof for that. When I was going to comment about the changes to your edit, I accidentally clicked on "publish" instead of selecting the comment field (I was editing with an iPad). Didn't feel like forcing an edit just to comment about yours.

      The reason why I removed the "rapist" part is because we try to avoid 18+ content. Of course, the whole scene is arguable, since the novel didn't describe any raping - it had much more dialogue and only several lines about touching, but there was a line about Kyouji trying to take off her tank top, so it can be argued both ways about attempting to rape.

      Either way, that's not the reason why I removed those words about raping. If the paragraph conveys the idea without details like these, then they should be avoided, as there are children who browse the wiki as well.

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    • Just to bring this up, because some people don't really seem to realize this part: Kyouji from start to finish, let it be known that his intentions from the start was to KILL Shino. He built up an entire fantasy life of himself and Shino living in another world happily, and he intended to commit double suicide with her.

      My perception from the novel was much less a rape attempt, and I felt the anime focused too much on the sexual aspect of it all. But this is probably just because Anime by nature is a visual medium, unlike novels, which have you focus specifically on what the author wants you to.

      By the way, I don't think the mere mention of rape is 18+ content. Describing it in any kind of detail (like trying to describe what occured in Volume 11(?)) would be, but merely mentioning that it occured shouldn't be a problem.

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    • I do remember that someone complained about it (or is that just my imagination?), so, if it's not important to mention specifically, then I don't see why we should emphasise it. Especially since it's only the anime that heavily portrays at as attempted rape. I didn't even think of such a possibility while reading the novel to be honest. The scene was nothing like volume 4 or 11

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    • Meow? Sexual assault happens AGAIN after Season 2....

      Good grief, I'm scared!

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    • Liu Jen Hao wrote:
      Meow? Sexual assault happens AGAIN after Season 2....

      Good grief, I'm scared!

      It's the last time it happens, though it's actually plot relevant, unlike before... but it's the worst time..

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    • Phew. Last time...that makes me happy. Why does sexual harassment happen so much in this series. Considering it's only rated 13+, kinda disturbing.

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    • Well, if you watch any movie/tv show nowadays, there'll be lots of references toward sex.

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    • Except that sex is more likely to be mutually accepted. In this case, it's entirely forced from one side.

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    • And on the side note that the Japanese could care less about that stuff. FOr example, their excess amount of porn magazines at airports. -.-;

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    • Gsimenas
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    • Thats True Japanese really do care less about that stuff , It's Just Unbeliveable , The One werid thing about it always his an Rape Scene

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    • Sadly next arc underworld also have more attempted rape scene . I hope they not showing too much on anime.

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    • Alright, this has really gone off topic. I'm closing the topic, as all I see right now are talks about various attempted rape scenes.

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