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  • So at the end of the Fairy Dance Aec Kirito logs into Heathcliff's admin account and revokes access to Sugou, defeats him and logs out Ausuna.

    So would that mean that Kirito still has access to Kiayba's admin acount when playing ALO? Or even the possilbily of using an admin account when playing on a MMO that has used "The Seed"?

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    • Accessing Heathcliff's account requires a password. Last time, Kayaba dictated the password to him, but I doubt whether Kirito memorised it. And there's also a question of whether the account exists in any other game.

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    • Ahh okay if this is mentioned in the Light Novels I'm only half way through the 2nd volume

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    • The account was never even referenced past the Fairy Dance arc. The fact that Heathcliff's account has a password is mentioned though.

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    • Gsimenas wrote:
      Accessing Heathcliff's account requires a password. Last time, Kayaba dictated the password to him, but I doubt whether Kirito memorised it. And there's also a question of whether the account exists in any other game.

      considdering they all are somewhat connected (i would assume they also use the same source code) i think Heathcliff's account works in all games made by the seed

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    • Just because you think so doesn't mean that it is so. Other game managers could have been less retarded than Sugou and checked for any unwanted accounts in their game.

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    • ALO was a direct copy of a slightly older version of SAO, with some visual changes. This can easily be used to explain why his admin account was in ALO.

      We really can't say if the Seed gave him administrative abilities, but I would wager that it's unlikely, considering he created the Seed so that other people could make more worlds, while ALO was just a copied version that already had his account in it.

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    • So what was the password then?

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    • That, we will never know until Reki decides to unveil it.

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    • I believe it was a long string of alphnumeric characters is the description used... At least in the translation i've read.

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    • Dugout copied the servers from SAO to form ALO so he can keep 300 former SAO players to fulfill his human control thing. If he copied them over that means Kayaba's admin is still in effect if Sugou took the game deleted the landscape and everything and created ALO.

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    • I think that everyone is forgetting some very important evidence that shows that Kazuto still has admin access.

      RCT Progress was closed and another, unrevealed, company took over Alfheim online. Now tell me, if Kazuto didn't have admin access how was he able to recreate Ironclad inside Alfheim online?

      I'm pretty certain he still has it and that it is basically a master key for everything seed related, but it being him he would never abuse it.

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    • Aincrad* oops

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    • Annnd... ALO doesn't have beast taming that I can tell and Silica(Keiko) has Pina again. I'd say Kazuto was able to recreate or port Pina. Yui was saved directly on Kazutos NervGear (Done with admin access at the time) and she was a program designed to work with Cardinal, where Pina would have likely been deleted with the rest of SAO(Only the Cardinal system was ported by RCT). You could argue that Silica's character data brought Pina with her like Kirito's skills but if all of Kiritos items were incompatible, what are the chances that Pina was compatible without admin modifications?

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    • ALfheim Online was literally a retexturised copy of Sword Art Online. A copy of Aincrad was still left on ALO's server and the new company that bought out ALO after the fall of RECT Progress just found it and decided to incorporate it into the game. Kazuto had nothing to do with this.

      As for Pina, Silica ported her SAO avatar (again, ALO is literally a copy of Sword Art Online, along with all character data). Pina was ported along with the avatar. Again, Kazuto had nothing to do with it.

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    • Does it say in the novel, or somewhere else, that the company who bought ALO found it and incorporated it? I know they coppied the engine, programming, and graphics formatting but you would have thought Kayaba when he purged SAO wouldn't have left a copy laying around for them to find. I like to think he entrusted it to Kazuto somehow with the seed. (Then again this is the guy who Kidnaps 10 thousand people then forgets why after 2 years...)

      Like I said with Pina, I believe it could go either way. Unless there is something specifically stating that thats how it was?

      The way Aincrad is introduced to Sugo and her reaction leads me to believe she had no idea it was in the game, if there was a update to add it there is no way it wouldn't have been announced/she would have heard about it. Putting Aincrad in ALO would be a pretty interesting move. On the one hand you have everyone who wanted to play SAO flocking to ALO but you also have the publicity of having the "Death Game" in ALO. Personally, I would have rereleased it as a stand alone, since magic was never suppose to be in SAO.

      I've never read the novels so i'm just giving my speculations based on the information you get in the anime and I like to believe that he still has access to admin privileges in some compacity. 

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    • Sugu*... Sugo is the super creepy bad guy lol.

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    • Yes, the novel clearly said that the new owners found the data of Aincrad in their servers and decided to make use of it. RECT copied the entire server, including even player profiles and their items (though these weren't incorporated to the actual game, so they weren't really useful). Pina's case should have also been stated in some side story, but I don't recall which.

      Anyway, ALO was taken over by a new company. Why would they leave a player with admin credentials in the game? Moreover, Heathcliff's account was protected with a complex, alphanumeric password. The only reason Kirito was able to access it was because Kayaba dictated the password to him. Do you really expect someone to remember a complex password after just hearing it once?

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    • Well sure. A long complex password of alphanumeric characters could easily be "h0W70kIdN4p10000p30pL34Ndpu77h3M1N4vI7u4L94M3W0rLdWh3r3d347hI5r34L4NdMuRD3R154p4r70f7h394M3101123456789L0L"

      Thats "HoW to kidNap 10,000 peopLe and put theM iN a vituaL gaMe worLd Where death is reaL and Murder is a part of the gaMe 101 123456789 LoL" 

      An extremely complex password that would take forever to crack, no one would be able to guess it and it's easy for the creator to remember. Hmm... maybe i'll start using that one...

      I could see heathcliffs admin account being "hardwired" to the cardinal system and unable to be removed without a complete remake/rebuild of the system, which I am sure that they would do after they found it, if they found it, and you could say they couldn't track to which player used it, only that it was used.

      Really for anything you can come up with theories and possibilities when it's not set in stone, there is no definitive "Yes Kazuto has access to Kayaba's admin account" or "no he does not". from the evidence it is likely he doesn't, but I still like to believe that he does and chooses not to abuse it and/or keeps it a secret and wouldn't use it unless a serious emergency. Because, lets be honest, having that kind of power in a mmo and using it would take all the fun out of it.

      Thanks for the info about the novels, i'll need to take the time and read through them at some point, maybe a rewatch of the anime after to compare.

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    • And if he does have the admin account Kayaba would have to be letting him have it anyway because he could just change the password.

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    • What I think is that he has access to admin priviledges but he doesnt want to use them cause the game would be boring

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    • Kirito logged out after defeating Sugou, so unless he had Kayaba's password (already stated to be a long string of alphanumeric characters) memorised there's no way he's accessing that account again.

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    • Sword Art Online II Episode 16 shows how in ALfheim Online Kirito made a stairway to make the travel time much shorter than it originally was to travel to a lower level.

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    • He didn't make the stairway. It existed there all along, but you needed to have a key for the door to access it from Alne side. Kirito and Leafa got the key after befriending Tonky and leaving Jotunheimr through the stairs after their first adventure in Jotunheimr.

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    • Is there an answer, Yes or No?

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    • The password? Yeah there is an answer. And it's the same answer as "Would you be able to keep a long string, consisting of alphanumeric characters with little pattern or meaning to it, in your mind accurately for more than a couple minutes, after hearing it only once in a sudden surprise, followed by a huge rush of adrenaline causing your brain to free up some space for a focused mind?".

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    • Akiho have acc in every game bcs he is global administrator something like that.

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    • That is wrong. Kayaba had his privileges in ALO, because ALO was a carbon copy of SAO, with an asset flip on top of it. When copying everything, that they themselves did not understand completely, they also copied over his account and privileges.

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    • I think he would of kept it no matter the seed, the engine is still accessable by the developer. An engine is still going to have set peramiters that you cant really remove, unless you completely remake a similar copy, which then it wouldnt be using the advanced ai system that SAO used. So that also applies to the seed since it is just an advanced version of the advanced ai seed that allows you to generate what you want.

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    • Yui could have the password saved and the administrative controls that is how she gave Kirito the key card so they could break into castle. 

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    • That's utter bullshit. Yui didn't get any card; Asuna did. There's no reason Yui would save some password that she wasn't even around to hear.

      And for the last time, the Cardinal System in ALO is a separate entity from The Seed. The Seed is a downgraded version of the Cardinal Sysyem, so there is utterly no reason to assume what works in ALO will work anywhere else.

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